I was talking to Jean (#19, richer than God) earlier today. He IMs me about once or twice a month, and pretty much always asks me whether I'm seeing someone, in the middle of casual banter. I do wonder why. After our three dates in summer '08 (please see 'Mutual benefits in Benelux' for further reading) he sort of 'disappeared' for some time (right after Lehman went bust) and I think it's a fair assumption to say that he continued to see other people (which he did) just to have something new. But - why still be in touch with me then? Jean is the kind of alpha-male type who doesn't have any trouble meeting people, and why still be in touch with someone who lives a long way away if you can have a lot of similar or better girls in your vicinity? Unless, you like them is my humble guess.
So, we did chat yesterday, too (exchanging season's greetings and shit at this time of year) but today's conversation was a bit more on the fruity side, indeed:
Me: :-*
Jean: hi
Jean: happy ny
Me: same to you
Me: hope its gonna be a good one
Jean: :-)
Me: what are you doing?
Jean: preparing for the new work year
Jean: you?
Me: lounging around
Me: sinusitis again, and im half deaf
Jean: oops
Jean: I know how that feels
Me: you have it quite often too, right?
Jean: yep
Jean: especially when flying
Me: i hear ya
Me: any more swinger club action in the recent time for you? (he told me he'd been to one some months ago)
Jean: you seem to be fascinated by that
Me: ;-)
Me: no not really
Me: thats not an answer to the question tho
Jean: so, why are you interested
Me: well, its not illegal to be interested in you, is it
Jean: especially in my sex life
Me: you always ask about mine too
Me: so? answer?
Jean: :-P
Jean: yep
Jean: went again with another woman
Me: oh god
Me: and was it any good?
Jean: for her it was
Me: and for you?
Jean: was ok
Jean: I like to watch
Jean: what did you do?
Me: sit around talking to people, have a look around and get screwed in a darkroom
Me: i liked the way other people were watching us
Jean: ??
Jean: when did that happen?
Jean: and where
Me: ?
Me: oh sorry i misunderstood your question
Me: i thought you were asking about what i did in a club
Jean: so, when did you go?
Me: i told you already
Jean: remind me
Me: 13 december 2008
Jean: where?
Me: in munich, it was a fetish club
Jean: ah yes
Jean: got it now
Me: ;-)
Me: so youve been having loads of sex then
Jean: not really
Me: but you went to swinger club several times, no?
Jean: a couple of
Jean: would not say several
Me: ok
Me: so youre not seeing anyone at the moment?
Jean: not at this moment
Jean: you?
Me: no of course not
Me: have you been seeing anyone in the recent time tho?
Jean: casual things
Me: ;-)
Jean: better that way
Me: why do you think?
Jean: at this point in time easier
Me: im not looking to commit at this point in my life either
Me: men are such idiots anyway, no point
Jean: :-))
Me: seriously, theyre so stupid i wouldnt even consider one date, let alone a real relationship
Me: and those, who arent complete cretins are gay or taken
Me: so ive given up the idea of wanting to commit completely and im very happy now
Jean: good
Jean: so how did you solve the sex issue
Me: i have the occasional date and apart from that i got my vibrators
Me: a bit like you, i guess
Jean: similar indeed
Jean: vibrator don't work on me tough
Me: ;-)
Me: but i guess youre getting more sex, i had a mere 3 dates over the whole of 2009 (not entirely true, i know)
Me: well you can jerk off then
Jean: true
Jean: better to have a woman's face close to cum on though
Me: mmmhh..
Me: id love that
Jean: still do?
Me: sure
Me: not from everyone tho!
Jean: bukake girl
Me: no harm in liking it
Me: (but i dont like bukkake)
Jean: would you like to go to a club again?
Me: i dunno
Me: maybe sometime
Jean: :-)
Jean: you are a bit submissive are you?
Me: well, yes
Me: i thought you knew
Jean: good
Jean: as a hypothetical question
Me: what
Jean: how would you like to go to
Jean: a club with me
Jean: and take orders from me
Me: well...
Me: if we agree upon whats ok and whats not in advance then i could imagine doing it
Jean: well, only safe things
Me: yes, obviously
Jean: and you get a safe word
Me: thats good
Jean: other than that you are a slafe
Jean: slave*
Me: your slave?
Jean: yes
Me: do you like the idea?
Jean: depends on how good you would be
Me: how good a slave?
Jean: and follow orders
Me: yes
Jean: like
Jean: suck me while others are watching
Me: i see
Jean: being fucked whilst doing that
Me: fucked by whom?
Jean: a stranger with a condom
Me: ok and you will fuck other women too then?
Jean: perhaps
Jean: or you will be licked
Me: im not sure id like interacting with anyone but you
Me: and vice versa
Jean: well, not much point going to a club then....
Me: hmm true
Me: ok then
Me: as long as you wouldnt abandon me with some weirdos
Jean: that I would not
Jean: I would take good care of my slave
Me: ok that sounds reasonable
Jean: start warming up to the idea?
Me: yes i think so
Jean: anything that you think would be of limits?
Me: hmm, i wouldnt fancy old and disgusting guys screwing me
Me: or what were you thinking of?
Jean: just using you as my toy
Me: yes ok
Me: and were you thinking of doing that somewhere in belgium or where
Jean: dunno yet
Jean: was hypothetical
Me: ah ok i thought you had something in mind already
Me: but
Me: if we ever do something like that
Me: i would appreciate seeing you once before that just to get used to you again - i hope that doesnt sound crazy to you?
Jean: ;-)
Me: so youre fine with that condition?
Jean: not really
Jean: we go to dinner first
Me: why not
Jean: not enough time
Me: youre not dying soon are you?
Me: but it might be enough if you fuck me before dinner
Me: i have to go have dinner now
Jean: enjoy sweeetie
Jean: nice company I hope
Me: at home
Me: nothing special
Me: well, tell me when you have a clearer idea about that whole business
Jean: good
Me: yea, i wont have time in the near future tho, tons of exams
Me: where were the clubs you went to so far
Jean: in belgium
Jean: when are the exams finished?
Me: exams all through january, and then im gone the first half of feb
Jean: okido
Jean: where to
Me: dusseldorf, for carnival
Jean: nice
Jean: with family?
Me: yes
Me: i will stay with my family, obviously i wont go out with them
Jean: :-D
Me: yea so im available between mid feb to mid may
Jean: and then?
Me: then im away for 2 weeks and have time again from june onwards
Me: or no, actually just one week
Me: but i guess you will be travelling a little bit more
Jean: I will be
Me: can i just ask you
Jean: sure
Me: why go to swinger club with me when you have other women who im guessing dont live inconveniently far away?
Me: its not very economical
Jean: just to do something new
Me: but you already know me
Jean: not in this context
Me: true
Me: and do you like doing it somewhere you could possibly get caught?
Jean: not really
Me: have you got any other fantasies then?
Jean: threesomes with girls
Me: but thats something you already did
Jean: never enough :-)
Me: what do you usually wear in a swinger club
Jean: underwear
Jean: dress code after 10 pm
Me: after 10 you have to be in underwear?
Jean: yep
Jean: or sexy lingerie
Me: haha yes
Me: and would you want me to wear a dog collar?
Jean: ah
Jean: you know the code of sm
Me: its cos i have one here somewhere and if you want it ill look for it
Jean: really?
Me: yes sure
Jean: how come you have one
Me: it looks cool
Me: thats why i got it
Jean: were you somebody's slave?
Me: not yet
Me: i have several fetishy outfits
Jean: nice
Me: i dont think i really did anything submissive with anyone but you...
Jean: really?
Me: no not really
Me: (but i liked it so much!)
Me: not all men like it
Jean: what don't they like
Me: dominating, i think. cos not everyone is a bossy alpha male type like you
Jean: hihi
Me: ;-)
Me: you still by the seaside
Jean: nope
Jean: drove back earlier
Me: any new cars?
Jean: yep
Jean: in 3 days
Me: what are you getting?
Jean: ferrari california
Me: oh god i love that car
Me: what colour
Jean: black
Me: are you excited about it?
Jean: :-)
Me: very cool.
Me: did you get a personal number plate like on the SL?
Jean: the same
Me: is that possible?
Jean: yep
Me: well, it is very fitting
Me: and im happy for you, im almost crying
Jean: why???
Me: cos i love fast cars so much and theyre a huge turn-on for me
Jean: :-)
Jean: did you like the SL? (SL 55 AMG)
Me: yes, very much
Me: very sexy car
Me: i prefer it to the SL 65 and the black SL
Jean: ferrari much cuter
Me: yes but a four seater nevertheless
Me: and the hard top removes 3 seconds faster
Jean: you are well informed
Me: i like cars
Me: i hope youre keeping the SL?
Jean: nope
Jean: end of life (it's about 5 years old)
Jean: I also like the new A8
Jean: and the BMW X1
Me: but you already have an A8 L and a X5 dont you
Jean: X5 will have to go
Jean: and the A8 is the older model now :-(
Me: what about the X5 m
Jean: too big
Me: i like zonda
Jean: what is that?
Me: pagani zonda
Jean: ???
Me: its a car
Me: a super car
Me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pagani_Zonda.jpg
Jean: wow
Me: great, huh
Jean: wowow
Me: almost gives you a hard-on
Jean: for me it does ;-)
Me: for me it does the equivalent then
Jean: :-)
Me: i bet youll get alot of attention in the california
Jean: blonde big boobed bitches
Me: your favourite ;-)
Jean: nope
Jean: was joking (yes, I got that, groan)
Jean: absurd humour
Jean: well, time for dinner here
Jean: till later
Me: see you
Jean: ciao bella
Me: bye love
So, what do I make of this? My experience with Jean is that he's not one to talk any bullshit or have hidden agendas. But how can you be sure? And - does he genuinly like me or am I just some fuckjob? Shit, I can't figure this one out.
